tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post4774220200605686228..comments2023-06-09T21:14:27.204+01:00Comments on J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: The Final Curtain - "CCTV rich" to "CCTV FAIL!"The Antagonisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-42203365395150938192011-09-05T00:08:05.148+01:002011-09-05T00:08:05.148+01:00This all sounds rotten. Its actually quite scary. ...This all sounds rotten. Its actually quite scary. Is this a world that we can bring kids up in? I am gonna stop watching the news cos its all crap. There is a cover up of sorts but I cant see who is behind it. <br />Have we figured out what time the 'bombers' actually left Luton? is there any record of rail tickets being purchased?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-50034077132454664272010-12-09T01:29:01.464+00:002010-12-09T01:29:01.464+00:00It smells rotten! CCTV protects no-one!It smells rotten! CCTV protects no-one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-17647871494431692802010-12-06T19:23:32.309+00:002010-12-06T19:23:32.309+00:00It's been proven beyond reasonable doubt 9/11 ...It's been proven beyond reasonable doubt 9/11 wasn't the result of 19 arabs hijacking aircraft and this 7/7 looks to be very suspicious too.<br /><br /> The cameras suddenly failed at a very convenient time on more than one vital occassion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-15925710160137850672010-11-29T02:55:19.146+00:002010-11-29T02:55:19.146+00:00It is 08:26, I think. Compare with the "039 M...It is 08:26, I think. Compare with the "039 MONITOR"Numeralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10524375540498868004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-35897868404486497692010-11-08T00:32:53.234+00:002010-11-08T00:32:53.234+00:00Why is the timestamp in the CCTV image at Kings Cr...Why is the timestamp in the CCTV image at Kings Cross show the time to be 9:26?<br /><br />It's definitely not 8:26?<br /><br />It can't be GMT, so it must be BST (GMT+1).<br /><br />So if the time on the ground when the bombs went off is 8:50, that is to say if you looked at your watch when the bombs went off (which would be BST), then this picture has to show the bombers after the bombs have already exploded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-73871609294000948562010-11-05T06:39:15.922+00:002010-11-05T06:39:15.922+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12236507389155398693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-17018132266646591772010-11-01T21:34:01.890+00:002010-11-01T21:34:01.890+00:00^ Anonymous said: "Nick Kollerstrom seemd to ...^ <i>Anonymous said: "Nick Kollerstrom seemd to have been attending the inquest"</i><br /><br />Seems is the appropriate word, he's been seen there for a couple of hours at most.<br /><br /><i>'and has also made sumbissions to the inquest'</i><br /><br />Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, although we doubt NK's sincerity<br /><br /><i><br />'on his site http ://terroronthetube.co.uk/latest-77-articles-3/germaine-lindsey-at-king%e2%80%99s-cross/<br />he refears to Mr. Fayad Patel a customer service assistant of London Underground who claims he saw someone looking like<br />Germain Lindsay at KIngs Cross between between 08:15 and 08:45.'</i><br /><br />It's fairly clear that the man Mr Fayaz Patel describes was not Lindsay: <br /><br />20 A. Yes. The guy was tall, male, black, short hair,<br />21 I wouldn't say dressed -- he wasn't wearing a suit, but<br />22 he was dressed quite smart, and --<br />24 A. Just wearing a shirt tucked in, smart trousers and it's<br />25 very strange for a passenger to ask for the duty station<br />9 Q. Did he have any kind of accent at all?<br />10 A. I would say maybe north London, but I'm not -- I can't<br />11 confirm accent.<br /><br />It is possible though that this was an excuse to get the DSM out of the control room which is what Mr Patel did in response to this man's request.<br /><br /><i>'Perhaps more imortant is his statement<br />how delays on the Northern Line, on National Rail and perhaps elsewhere that morning meant that “the entire Tube gate line area was congested and we’d implemented a station control to try and minimise the flow of passengers.” This involved shutting escalators off, shutting the main entrance and exit points and then periodically opening them as and when appropriate.'</i><br /><br />Which included shutting off the entrance from the Thameslink tunnel as well:<br /><br /><i>'As there was only nine minutes form arriving at 8.26 (if time stamp accurate) and the 08.35 : The Eastbound Circle line train leaving Kings Cross<br />These station controls would have resulted in delays of many minutes. Making it even more unlikly that the 8.35 could be caught'</i><br /><br />The time of 9 minutes does seem unlikely although the main gate line (where Fayaz Patel was working that morning) wouldn't necessarily be the route to the Circle Line. As described by TfL in a response to a J7 FOI request:<br /><br />To access the Circle line on 7 July 2005, you could walk from the Thameslink station with a valid Tube ticket through the Thameslink tunnel to either the Victoria or Piccadilly line platforms. From here, you would walk along the platforms and then up the escalators and left at the top, (before the main gateline) through the narrow "Kyber Pass" passageway and gateline, (passing the Euston road stairs on your left) then down the stairs on the right to the Circle line platform concourse.<br /><br />As Fayaz Patel said though:<br /><br />17 Q. All right. Do you know, one way or another, as to<br />18 whether or not the gate was shut on that morning, or<br />19 whether it was simply part of what is expected to be<br />20 done?<br />21 A. Well, I would believe that if the station control was in<br />22 place, then it's likely that that gate would be shut.<br /><br />Noticeably this is not pursued by Counsel - but it appears to have happened a bit earlier than 8.30:<br /><br />20 A. Yes, by about 8.00, the entire Tube gate line area was<br />21 congested and we'd implemented a station control to try<br />22 and minimise the flow of passengers.<br /><br />Another point is that Hugo Keith is attempting to push forward the time that the Aldgate train left KX was 8.38 and not 8.35 (which is what TfL told J7 in a FOI):<br /><br />"The train that he destroyed, train<br />17 set number 204, left Kings Cross about 08.38"<br /><br /><a href="http://77inquests.blogspot.com/2010/10/behind-scenes-of-aldgate-explosion-it.html" rel="nofollow">Behind the Scenes of the Aldgate Explosion, at 11 minutes to 9</a>Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-11655937300629734132010-11-01T14:34:13.176+00:002010-11-01T14:34:13.176+00:00Nick Kollerstrom seemd to have been attending the ...Nick Kollerstrom seemd to have been attending the inquest<br />and has also made sumbissions to the inquest<br />on his site http://terroronthetube.co.uk/latest-77-articles-3/germaine-lindsey-at-king%e2%80%99s-cross/<br />he refears to Mr. Fayad Patel a customer service assistant of London Underground who claims he saw someone looking like<br />Germain Lindsay at KIngs Cross between between 08:15 and 08:45. Perhaps more imortant is his statement <br />how delays on the Northern Line, on National Rail and perhaps elsewhere that morning meant that “the entire Tube gate line area was congested and we’d implemented a station control to try and minimise the flow of passengers.” This involved shutting escalators off, shutting the main entrance and exit points and then periodically opening them as and when appropriate.<br /><br />As there was only nine minutes form arriving at 8.26 (if time stamp accurate) and the 08.35 : The Eastbound Circle line train leaving Kings Cross<br />These station controls would have resulted in delays of many minutes. Making it even more unlikly that the 8.35 could be caughtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-752417776516954202010-10-21T19:15:21.529+01:002010-10-21T19:15:21.529+01:00Strange how the CCTV cameras all functioned perfec...Strange how the CCTV cameras all functioned perfectly on the so-called dummy run or reconnaissance trip shortly before 7/7.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-77519294274877566352010-10-20T11:09:48.396+01:002010-10-20T11:09:48.396+01:00I think it was the bloke from the Grassy Knoll, so...I think it was the bloke from the Grassy Knoll, someone needs to check the CCTV there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-19979604815186853902010-10-20T10:39:36.365+01:002010-10-20T10:39:36.365+01:00So much for CCTV 'combating terrorists'! W...So much for CCTV 'combating terrorists'! Would it not be useful for the inquiry to ascertain exactly WHY the cameras 'malfunctioned' for that critical period?<br /><br />When is the inquiry going to grill Bob Kiley and Peter Powers?<br /><br />When is the inquiry going to examine the linkage between the bus and Tavistock House and its occupants on that dreadful day?<br /><br />When is the inquiry going to examine the parallels between 7/7, Madrid bombing and 9/11, for there is most certainly a connection...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-62491629829679267912010-10-20T02:51:14.722+01:002010-10-20T02:51:14.722+01:00I don't recall my VHS failing and it was decad...I don't recall my VHS failing and it was decades old the last time i used it. What is with these CCTV cameras that can fail? More information on this system needs to be exposed. The question I have is the remote control of the devices to "look away" at critical times.<br /><br />www.hawkscafe.comericswanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02072533069898695243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-68227738059417473852010-10-20T00:07:28.946+01:002010-10-20T00:07:28.946+01:00You know, I can see how the judge is bent, I can s...You know, I can see how the judge is bent, I can see how the QC is bent, but what I don't get, is that in the face of the most monstrous cover up on the British mainland in history, that not a single damned journalist has the gumption to look at the work you've done, the inferences you've drawn, taken a deep breath and gone "they're onto something here".<br /><br />Because you plainly are - and these lying, treacherous, murdering scum are getting found out with every twisted, incoherent outpouring.<br /><br />Oh what a tangled web we weave!sifrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-1228307618262346792010-10-19T21:40:23.633+01:002010-10-19T21:40:23.633+01:00Has anyone spoken to the office manager in McDonal...Has anyone spoken to the office manager in McDonald's to discover why the CCTV was conveniently switched off just before Hasib Hussein entered? We shall never now be able to see for ourselves him rummaging around in his highly unstable rucksack to attach a battery. How convenient is that.sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-35058115568229309312010-10-19T21:30:32.061+01:002010-10-19T21:30:32.061+01:00@Ruth: The term 'inside job' is bandied ar...@Ruth: The term 'inside job' is bandied around a lot, but the logical follow-up question would be: <br /><br />Inside job to whom or what?The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-37307834159448747882010-10-19T21:29:12.093+01:002010-10-19T21:29:12.093+01:00That's what DI Kindess said.
75 cameras faile...That's what DI Kindess said.<br /><br />75 cameras failed, except the crucial one that provided the only image showing the four accused at King's Cross Thameslink, still some way from King's Cross underground station.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-19018124086927725362010-10-19T20:16:40.280+01:002010-10-19T20:16:40.280+01:00So all those camera's miraculously malfunction...So all those camera's miraculously malfunctioned...amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-5519865877865278222010-10-19T16:50:16.449+01:002010-10-19T16:50:16.449+01:00I would say that this very strongly points to 7/7 ...I would say that this very strongly points to 7/7 being an inside job.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07713759926710072249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-38647805396669745742010-10-19T11:53:05.006+01:002010-10-19T11:53:05.006+01:00So many assumptions with so little in the way of c...So many assumptions with so little in the way of concrete<br />evidence. My hope is, with approximately two months to go,<br />it gets better by the way of more hard evidence. Do not hold your breath!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com