tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.comments2023-06-09T21:14:27.204+01:00J7: 7/7 Inquests BlogThe Antagonisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comBlogger376125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-13557918402817871452019-12-05T17:16:20.636+00:002019-12-05T17:16:20.636+00:00The above , regarding DNA and peaks is really nons...The above , regarding DNA and peaks is really nonsense. DNA analysis does not depend on quantity since trace amounts are always amplified (replicated) by PCR type techniques. Mixed samples can also be dealt with and must be because all samples are contaminated by other DNA. Where DNA can be be fixed it is in the chain of custody, of both the samples taken and in this case also the body parts themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-37926733413128781452018-10-23T13:05:25.463+01:002018-10-23T13:05:25.463+01:00Voyager, your account does not square with Jones&#...Voyager, your account does not square with Jones's story below, Bridget 24 January 2011, which quotes Jones as saying he left the bus with 12 others, then stood for a few minutes before the bus blew up.<br /><br />I cannot see the CCTV clock clearly to verify your claimed time stamps.<br /><br />Jones is said to have given several mutually conflicting accounts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-47266356043090159102016-03-19T19:43:45.670+00:002016-03-19T19:43:45.670+00:00Thank you for sharing this film. We certainly do n...Thank you for sharing this film. We certainly do need a full and frank public inquiry to all the points that have been raised. Over 50 people have lost their lives, we owe it to them and their families. The whole truth must come out, and the guilty people exposed and prosecuted.JRRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01646464402353124428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-45202683089737898162016-01-29T02:02:46.944+00:002016-01-29T02:02:46.944+00:00You refer to Cameron telling Blair in the house th...You refer to Cameron telling Blair in the house that there should be an inquiry. Now that Cameron has been in power for years, he has had more than enough time to convene a full open & honest enquiry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-11016663267999855152015-07-15T22:20:56.997+01:002015-07-15T22:20:56.997+01:00Side note:
'Ant-terror' Detective Richard...Side note:<br /><br />'Ant-terror' Detective <b>Richard De Cadenet</b>[^] was sentenced to jail for 10 months in September 2008.<br /><br /><i>Southwark Crown Court heard over 15 months the former RAF policeman, who served in the Gulf War and Bosnia, repeatedly misused the credit card issued to all officers in the Anti Terror unit.<br />...<br />Between July 18, 2006 and October 2 last year, he withdrew a total of £18,000 from cash machines. Of the 415 transactions made on the card, only 28 were legitimate; over a period of 15 months he misused the card to the tune of £73,669.18.<br />...<br />The judge added one of the main aggravating features of the case was that it was a 'most serious breach of trust'.<br /><br />More than 1,400 Amex cards have been withdrawn from detectives after about £2 million of police expenses were unaccounted for.<br /> <br />Some officers allegedly used the cards to pay for holidays and Rolex watches. One is said to have used his Met card to pay for his wife's plastic surgery.<br /> <br />The majority of the unexplained cash was submitted in expenses claims by officers working for the Yard's counter-terrorism and detective squads.</i><br /><br />In an earlier court hearing of June 2008, De Cadenet pleaded guilty to one count of '<i>misfeasance in a public office</i>' between July 18 and October 2 2007..<br /><br />Were the 1400 cops given free reign on their Met-police-plastic, so that they could be 'tugged' at any time in the future, if they 'stepped out of line'?Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-18212330026622056052015-07-12T21:38:33.707+01:002015-07-12T21:38:33.707+01:00,,,Since 2005 we have learned that the IRA and its...,,,Since 2005 we have learned that the IRA and its political wing, Sinn Fein, were infiltrated to the extent that as many as one quarter of its membership were in some way cooperating, collaborating—nay, conspiring—with the British police, army and security services.,,,<br /><br />this is totally bias ,, don't you also not think the same amount of legally binding British from those same departments were working cobalt for the Republicans ,?? ,, it works both ways ,, ask ian pasley ,,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-49058210666467570882015-07-09T17:17:04.914+01:002015-07-09T17:17:04.914+01:00That should be 'Gunpowder Plot of 1605' of...That should be <i>'Gunpowder Plot of 1605'</i> of courseSabretachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11652655872639394084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-1161308703458620702015-07-09T09:10:19.738+01:002015-07-09T09:10:19.738+01:00The big question - 'was 7/7 staged by the stat...<i>The big question - 'was 7/7 staged by the state?'. Are we </i>[so-called] <i>non- violent extremists to be feared as much as the terrorists if we think it possible. </i><br /><br />An admirably understated rhetorical question if I may say so. Because to fail (or refuse) to consider every possibility that fits the available evidence - especially in light of historical precedent - is a fundamental betrayal of the innocent; and there of course is the rub. For there are considerations which really are absolute taboo.<br /><br />To those with both the time and stomach for genuinely open-minded research into the historical deeds of our Secret Intelligence Services and their enforcers, from at least the Gunpowder Plot of 1688 through to Gladio and its latter day spawnings, the answer will be blindingly obvious:<br /><br />There is no reason whatsoever for the average Joe to fear us for anything other than the shattering of cherished illusions; <br /><br />..... but every reason for those same SIS's and their Deep State Masters to consider us the most dangerous threat of all to their vicious, duplicitous, machiavellian, self-perpetuating privilage and power.Sabretachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11652655872639394084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-63438050752914379812015-07-07T14:17:03.850+01:002015-07-07T14:17:03.850+01:00Looks like the original disappeared.
The links ...Looks like the original disappeared. <br /><br />The links have been fixed and you can watch the video re-embedded above or <a href="https://vimeo.com/126298463" rel="nofollow">on Vimeo</a>.<br />The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-37064036973661150282015-07-07T14:04:45.298+01:002015-07-07T14:04:45.298+01:00So where is this video?So where is this video?ladyshalothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06837637105811858949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-21447443782508267652015-07-07T11:03:48.435+01:002015-07-07T11:03:48.435+01:00As ever the crucial work of J7 of trying to captur...As ever the crucial work of J7 of trying to capture all the information released officially or viler .news and other sources. Provides a very valuable resource of information. To be able to catalogue the changing story of 7/7. To highlight inconsistencies. <br />Questioning why the lack of confirmation evidence of CCTV and consistent eye witness statements exist or has been released.<br />The questionable undamaged identification documents found at the scene some times days after the explosion..<br />The many eye witness and evidence at the inquest of multiple large holes in the train floor and evidence of blasts possibly coming from under the floor. <br />Some of the questionable and changing story of the DNA evidence,<br />Plus the destruction of evidence of the cartridges.<br />The great secrecy and control of evidence by the state with even simple FOI requests refused.<br />The refusal of a government inquiry requested by relatives even though David Cameron had told Tony Blair in parliament that there should be one.<br />Security services involvement in fostering the troubles in Northern Ireland continue to come out but the significance of this is not explained. As it was happening at the same time as the strategy for tension was being conducted in Europe was it part of the same thinking. <br />The big question was 7/7 staged by the state. Are we non violent extremists to be feared as much as the terrorists if we think it possible. <br />As suggested by David Cameron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-11817338273756200432015-06-15T00:11:20.723+01:002015-06-15T00:11:20.723+01:00I sympathise with the difficulty encountered by tr...I sympathise with the difficulty encountered by treading the narrow path between understanding the inadequacies of the officila 7/7 account and the more offf the wall theorists. we have the same difficulty at reinvestigate911. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-85334310563758726542013-09-03T16:17:42.341+01:002013-09-03T16:17:42.341+01:00Who is the unnamed colleague with whom Bob Lambert...<i>Who is the unnamed colleague with whom Bob Lambert established the Muslim Contact Unit?</i><br /><br />Was it <b>Jim Boyling</b><br /><br />From <a href="http://bristlingbadger.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/bob-lambert-still-spying.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> (more links therein):<br /><br />"The relationship with Boyling was perhaps especially close, as BristleKRS <a href="http://bristle.wordpress.com/tag/dr-robert-lambert-mbe/" rel="nofollow">noted</a>:<br /><br /><i>Both <b>Boyling</b> and <b>Lambert</b> are accused of lying to courts to preserve their cover; both <b>Boyling</b> and <b>Lambert</b> duplicitously entered into sexual relationships with activists on whom they were spying; both <b>Boyling</b> and <b>Lambert</b> sired children by these women. Is this coincidence, or an indication of the nature of the training Lambert offered his protégés?</i><br /><br /><b>Their work together continued beyond infiltrating activists. After devoting the major part of their careers to undercover work they abruptly shifted focus, setting up the Muslim Contact Unit in January 2002</b>. This police outfit is aimed at building bridges with muslims and muslim communities. And maybe that's all it is.<br /><br />But if I were the police, wanting to have undercover officers in muslim groups in the wake of 9/11, I'd have to think of a new tactic. Having a legion of trained white folks wouldn't help me be surreptitious. So, what if they openly approached muslims as police but had this nice supportive role? They would then be well placed to identify people who could become a ring of informants. They would also be highly trained and very experienced at the tricks and tactics of gaining people's trust and making them confess things they want to keep secret.<br /><br />I have absolutely no evidence that's what the Muslim Contact Unit is. I just find it very peculiar that, <b>of all the available officers, they chose two of the country's most experienced undercover infiltrators to set up and run it.</b>"<br /><br /><br /><br />Rennaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-85595965076368097882013-07-16T14:48:34.227+01:002013-07-16T14:48:34.227+01:00Thanks for your reply.Thanks for your reply.Postkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11747509012748106827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-90536328476057736072013-07-16T12:51:28.380+01:002013-07-16T12:51:28.380+01:00@ Postkey You can watch the released video here: ...@ Postkey You can watch the released video here: http://vimeo.com/13184562 from around 6.25 in you can try and figure out how many men emerge from the cars, it's very unclear footage.<br /><br />No, there is no other video released other than 28/6 & 7/7 as the former is the apparent 'test run'.<br /> Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-87241529387775856592013-07-16T10:50:02.025+01:002013-07-16T10:50:02.025+01:00Is there any CCTV footage showing the number of in...Is there any CCTV footage showing the number of individuals 'getting out of' the Micra and Brava on 7/7?<br /><br /><br />Is there CCTV footage of the Jaguar on any days other than 28/06 and 07/07?<br />Postkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11747509012748106827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-46585433700951102812013-07-09T22:49:14.879+01:002013-07-09T22:49:14.879+01:00From Lambert's St. Andrews profile
In January...From Lambert's <a href="http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~cstpv/staff/boblambert/boblambert.html" rel="nofollow">St. Andrews profile</a><br /><br /><i><strong>In January 2002, together with a colleague</strong> Lambert set up the Muslim Contact Unit (MCU), with the purpose of establishing partnerships with Muslim community leaders both equipped and located to help tackle the spread of al-Qaida propaganda in London. This role enabled him to participate in some pioneering and successful counter-terrorism community engagement projects. It also provided Lambert with opportunities to support Muslim community groups when they have faced Islamophobic attacks. In recognition he was presented with the first ‘Friends of Islam’ Award by Dr. Abdul Bari, chairman of the Muslim Council of Britain, at the annual Global, Peace and Unity event in November 2007 and a ‘Building Bridges’ award at Islam Expo in July 2008. In June 2008 he was awarded an MBE for his police service.<br /><br />In October 2005 Lambert embarked on a parallel academic project, researching key aspects of MCU partnership experience. In January 2010 he was awarded a PhD for The London Partnerships: an insider’s analysis of legitimacy and effectiveness in the Department of Politics at the University of Exeter. This followed a path of part-time academic activity: in 2004 he was awarded a distinction for his MA dissertation on early modern English encounters with Islam at Birkbeck College, University of London; and in 2002, 1st class honours for an inter-disciplinary European cultural history BA at the Open University.</i><br /><br />Who is the unnamed colleague with whom Bob Lambert established the Muslim Contact Unit?The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-38428250996346670102013-07-09T15:37:33.294+01:002013-07-09T15:37:33.294+01:00A copy of Alex Butterworth's FOI request:
The...A copy of Alex Butterworth's FOI request: <br /><a href="http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKIT/2009/EA_2008_0078.html" rel="nofollow">The Metropolitan Police v IC (Freedom of Information Act 2000) [2009] UKIT EA_2008_0078 (30 March 2009)</a><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-72435254454297622952013-07-09T14:23:19.379+01:002013-07-09T14:23:19.379+01:00Hmmm.
It appears that the Police officer referred ...Hmmm.<br />It appears that the Police officer referred to in Alex Butterworth's book above was none other than Lindsay Clutterbuck who now works for - wait for it - <a href="" rel="nofollow">The Rand Corporation</a>Wikispookshttps://wikispooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-8685375882817190412013-07-09T13:33:14.066+01:002013-07-09T13:33:14.066+01:00Thank Rennald.
My observations on the Walsall Bomb...Thank Rennald.<br />My observations on the Walsall Bomb Plot relied principally on Alex Butterworth's "The World That Never Was" - a cracking and thoroughly recommended read. In his research for the book he submitted an FOI request to the MPS for access to specific ledgers covering payments to 'informers' during the plot period. He was told they "no longer existed". Soon after he came upon a doctoral thesis by an ex-MPI Superintendent, the contents of which made it clear that they DID exist. A further FOI request followed and was refused. An appeal against that decision was upheld and copies of the relevant ledgers finally released - But with ALL the relevant names redacted - so just dates code names and amounts. THAT is how paranoid (if that's the right word) our Lords and masters are. Getting genuinely honest, relevant information out of them on anything they deem 'sensitive', is next to impossible - even after 130 years!Wikispookshttps://wikispooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-84486464307655685082013-07-09T00:18:37.341+01:002013-07-09T00:18:37.341+01:00Thanks Rennald.
Wikipedia starters:
- Jubilee P...Thanks Rennald.<br /><br />Wikipedia starters: <br /><br />- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_Plot" rel="nofollow">Jubilee Plot</a><br />- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Wheeldon" rel="nofollow">Alice Wheeldon</a><br />The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-36893218093493248702013-07-08T23:59:00.072+01:002013-07-08T23:59:00.072+01:00The main agent-provocateur in the Walsall Anarchis...The main agent-provocateur in the <a href="http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh/index.php?act=ST&f=61&t=3301" rel="nofollow">Walsall Anarchists 'plot'</a> is known & was <b>Auguste Coulon</b>, it's just that the state hasn't admitted that such conspiracy facts exist. <br /><br />A special branch historian, Lindsay Clutterbuck, in his thesis: <i>'The Evolution of Counter Terrorism Methodology in the Metropolitan Police from 1829 to 1901, With Particular Reference to the Influence of Extreme Irish Nationalist Activity'</i> has documented the machinations of Coulon & others....<br /><br />Clutterbuck's thesis is <a href="http://www.investigatingtheterror.com/SS7-7/ClutterbuckThesis.pdf" rel="nofollow">one</a> for Wikispooks to host.<br /><br />Other plots now known to feature crown agent-provocateurs include the Jubilee Plot of 1887 & the Alice Wheeldon/Plot to kill PM Lloyd George of 1916.<br /><br />I doubt 'the state' has ceased such <i>modi operandi</i>these days.<br /><br /><br />Thanks for all your work, J7.Rennaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-24304139854759405482013-07-08T19:16:59.480+01:002013-07-08T19:16:59.480+01:00Stephen: All of the examples you list were planned...<b>Stephen</b>: All of the examples you list were planned for inclusion in the conspiracy facts detail, but the article was already quite lengthy and had to end somewhere. <br><br>We have a comment thread though, so thank you for expanding the list to include the Hillsborough conspiracy, the Azelle Rodney execution and cover-up conspiracy facts, the phone hacking conspiracy facts, the child abuse within the Catholic church conspiracy facts, and the conspiracy facts regarding <a href="https://antagonise.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/jimmy-savile-the-bbc-eric-gill-lessons-in-hiding-in-plain-sight" rel="nofollow">Jimmy Saville's crimes</a> while he was in extended employment with the BBC and high-faluting with royalty, prime minister's and other senior political figures. <br><br>Without looking too far, it looks like 'conspiracy facts' are to be found in many aspects of the daily news. <br><br><br><b>Wikispooks</b>: Thanks for the comment and praise for J7, and for pointing out that the infiltrators in the case of the Walsall Anarchists continue to remain unknown. <br><br>Thanks also for maintaining <a href="https://wikispooks.com" rel="nofollow">WikiSpooks</a>, a useful resource without which the aside about Lambert's Muslim Contact Unit might not have made it into the article.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-26158894288715762052013-07-08T13:45:45.334+01:002013-07-08T13:45:45.334+01:00First class stuff. But since the guardians of the ...First class stuff. But since the guardians of the state's sectrets stall cannot be persuaded to reveal the names of the accompices (suspected SB agent-provocateurs) to Walsaal bomb plot some 130 years later, I doubt that asking nicely will produce a better result for 7/7. <br /><br />You're doing a damn good job nonetheless. ThanksWikispookshttps://wikispooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-350827144131011460.post-3828239995422728762013-07-08T12:17:44.111+01:002013-07-08T12:17:44.111+01:00I think it may be possible to add that evidence is...I think it may be possible to add that evidence is now coming to light concerning the true nature of the disaster that unfolded at Hillsborough, Sheffield, and that a police cover-up followed, coupled with a campaign to malign the citizens of the city of Liverpool by Press and politicians.<br /><br />I think the "unlawful killing" of Azelle Rodney seems to mirror the death of Jean Charles de Menezes, in that an ill-conceived police operation resulted in an unnecessary death and an attempt by police to control the resulting press coverage and Inquiry.<br /><br />That the police and Press seemed to be somehow "co-operating" in the hacking of the phones of Victims and celebrities (all in the name of profit, Oops! Public Interest).<br /><br />Everyone knew of the problems in the Catholic Church, but sacrificing the sexual health of minors to protect the reputation of the Institution seems to have extended to the secular BBC, with the exploits of Jimmy Saville coming to prominence.<br /><br />There is some talk of "limited Hangout Operative" being banded about concerning the revelations of Edward Snowden, but it looks like GCHQ has been co-operating with the US NSA to gather every scrap of communication produced by everyone and anyone, from everywhere and anywhere, for no good reason.<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />troubadourAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com